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[man] <i>Being inside of me,</i>
<i>it's like...</i>

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<i>The appetite,</i>
<i>it's like a wolf that's...</i>

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<i>feeling...</i>

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<i>the hunger.</i>

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[reporter] <i>We have</i>
<i>a local breaking</i>
<i>news alert right now,</i>

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<i>in Putnam County,</i>
<i>where two boys</i>

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<i>were found dead in a home.</i>

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<i>12-year-old Robert Baker</i>

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<i>and 14-year-old Tayten Baker</i>
<i>were murdered here.</i>

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Now deputies
are trying to figure out

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what happened
leading up to their deaths.

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[Bardey] <i>The brutal</i>
<i>nature of the crime</i>
<i>and the extent of overkill</i>

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<i>speaks to something</i>
<i>very personal.</i>

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It's not just...
If this were a home invasion

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and the kids were in the way,

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the intruder would have
done the minimum to get
the kids out of the way.

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So once they were
out of the way,

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<i>there's no reason</i>
<i>to go any further.</i>

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<i>The degree of overkill here...</i>

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<i>It speaks to the fact</i>
<i>that the killer</i>
<i>knew his victims</i>

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<i>and was driven by some</i>
<i>sort of intense rage.</i>

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[sobbing]

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[sobbing]

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At this point
in the investigation,

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detectives are bringing
in the immediate
family members.

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Most of
the family's co-operating.

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They're willingly
talking to the authorities.

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They're sharing whatever
information they know.

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<i>What we notice</i>
<i>is that Cindy</i>
<i>is highly emotional.</i>

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<i>She's having a hard time</i>
<i>digesting what's happened.</i>

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<i>Mark's not showing</i>
<i>a whole lot of affect</i>
<i>or emotion.</i>

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<i>But he's trying</i>
<i>to comfort his girlfriend.</i>

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<i>He's trying to respond</i>
<i>to the situation</i>

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<i>based on what he thinks</i>
<i>is required of him.</i>

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[Dr. Vienna] <i>Asking</i>
<i>for a lawyer early</i>
<i>in an investigation</i>

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could be a sign
of defensiveness.

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It could be a sign
that he did something wrong

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and he doesn't know
how to get out of it.

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<i>I think the key feature here</i>

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<i>is his lack of emotional</i>
<i>attachment to the children.</i>

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<i>You would I think that</i>
<i>if these were your children</i>

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<i>or your girlfriend's children</i>

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<i>or some children</i>
<i>in your family,</i>

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<i>that you would do</i>
<i>anything it takes</i>
<i>to help solve their crime.</i>

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You would come forth
and give a DNA test,

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take a lie detector test.

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So if someone like Mark Wilson
isn't doing that,

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investigators might assume
that he has something to hide.

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[Dr. Sahni] <i>It's not uncommon</i>
<i>for family members</i>

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of somebody who's psychopathic
or people close to them

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to sometimes see
emotions and reactions
that aren't actually there.

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<i>So it's hard to know</i>
<i>if Wilson's mom</i>

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<i>actually saw tears</i>

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<i>and full, genuine</i>
<i>emotion from her son.</i>

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Or, more likely,
if Wilson did shed any tears

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or his eyes became
glassy and watery,

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it was either an attempt

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<i>to confuse his mother</i>
<i>and manipulate her.</i>

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<i>Or it may have been</i>
<i>his own regret and sadness</i>

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<i>for the fact that</i>
<i>he's now been found out.</i>

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[Dr. Vienna] <i>So he's</i>
<i>somewhat criminally</i>
<i>sophisticated at this point.</i>

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<i>Been to prison</i>
<i>for almost five years,</i>

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engaging in drug offenses.

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His violent behavior
is slowly escalating.

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And he doesn't really
have that many skills

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to navigate life successfully.

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So he's living this
sort of parasitic lifestyle
off of others.

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<i>And he's really</i>
<i>giving nothing in return.</i>

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<i>Just taking from others.</i>

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Wilson at different times
tries to come up
with different excuses

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to shift the blame
away from himself.

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He blames his girlfriend.

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He blames the children.

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<i>He never really comes up</i>
<i>and acknowledges</i>
<i>and takes responsibility,</i>

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and that denotes a certain
degree of callousness.

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It denotes a certain degree
of lack of empathy.

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I mean, at the very least,
now that he's been caught

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<i>to show some degree</i>
<i>of regret and remorse</i>

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<i>for having killed</i>
<i>these children.</i>

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But yet,
even at the end of this
interview, he still does not.

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[siren wailing]

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[Dr. Vienna]
<i>What's transpiring here</i>

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is he's posting himself up

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to be this, sort of,
big brother,

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this hero,
this very, you know,

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caring and
engaging individual.

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It's an a stark contrast
to what we know about him.

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<i>He's someone</i>
<i>that uses people,</i>

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<i>engages in criminal activity</i>
<i>to get what he wants.</i>

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<i>He's just making himself</i>
<i>out to be someone</i>

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<i>who he's not,</i>
<i>almost trying to control</i>

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<i>the narrative</i>
<i>of the situation.</i>

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That he's a good guy,
he's the innocent one.

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He's the role model

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to Robert and Tayten.

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[Dr. Sahni]
<i>One of the other theories</i>
<i>during this investigation</i>

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was that his motivation
to kill the boys

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may have had to do
with that family
reporting him to CPS.

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<i>And he's worried that his</i>
<i>young daughter</i>

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<i>would be taken away</i>
<i>because of his drug use.</i>

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<i>There's zero indication</i>

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<i>that either of the two victims</i>

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<i>were engaged</i>
<i>in anything inappropriate,</i>

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sexually with either
Wilson's young daughter,

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or his significant other.

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<i>This is somebody</i>
<i>who desperately</i>
<i>is grasping at straws.</i>

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<i>Wilson's willing</i>
<i>to throw anyone</i>
<i>and everyone under the bus</i>

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in this interview,
just to walk out the door

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because he didn't do it,
or he did it
because he had to.

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It really shows us
that he acted
on vulnerable individuals

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who weren't able
to fight back,

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didn't have a really
a chance to escape.

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<i>He waited until</i>
<i>they were completely</i>
<i>knocked out, to hurt them.</i>

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<i>It's a common trait</i>
<i>for psychopaths</i>

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<i>to prey upon those weaker</i>
<i>than themselves</i>

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or those that are vulnerable,

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that aren't able
to fight back,

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so they can then
get what they want
out of the situation,

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Wilson is using words
that he believes
he should be using.

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Life has taught him
that he should
model this behavior,

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<i>but because</i>
<i>there's no depth to it,</i>
<i>there's no sincerity to it.</i>

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<i>And he doesn't really have</i>
<i>a lot of understanding</i>

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<i>of what emotions are</i>
<i>or attachment is.</i>

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<i>It's just words.</i>

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It's an afterthought
to say, "I'm sorry."

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It's an afterthought to say
this was a big mistake.

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It wasn't a "Big mistake."

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Mistakes are, "I accidentally
forgot to pay the bills."

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Mistakes are...

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"I left something in the car
that should have been
put in the refrigerator."

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"I left the milk out."

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Big mistakes are not brutally
murdering two children

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<i>that are members</i>
<i>of your family.</i>

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♪

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Just because somebody is
a member of your family

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doesn't mean that you're
automatically safe.

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[Lawyer]
Are you a family annihilator?

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You mean, like, did I shoot my
wife and my son?

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[Woman]
Sometimes that risk lies within.

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♪


